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		<title>By: belog</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 22:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[just wanna say your post inspiring me much..thank you]]></description>
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		<title>By: blog zone</title>
		<link>http://theunspunblog.com/2007/01/18/malaysian-bloggers-sued/#comment-56323</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 05:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like blogger malaysia, because they are good and always professional in developing their websites..can i excjange link with you? please confirm if you accept or reject]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like blogger malaysia, because they are good and always professional in developing their websites..can i excjange link with you? please confirm if you accept or reject</p>
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		<title>By: everydaymalay</title>
		<link>http://theunspunblog.com/2007/01/18/malaysian-bloggers-sued/#comment-33004</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 10:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[it gets sillier by the day, seriously &quot;is Malay a race&quot;? of course it is...like the Chinese who are made of many sects and groupings, so are Malays... be it Jawa, Bugis, Sumatrans, Acheh, non-mixed Filipinos (named after a Spanish King is not so original) Filipinos are Malays...

Indians asking a million each even funnier from the Brits... your forefathers took the boat for a better life... if not you all would be still competing with 1.2 billion other Indians (do the math.. its better here anyday)...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it gets sillier by the day, seriously &#8220;is Malay a race&#8221;? of course it is&#8230;like the Chinese who are made of many sects and groupings, so are Malays&#8230; be it Jawa, Bugis, Sumatrans, Acheh, non-mixed Filipinos (named after a Spanish King is not so original) Filipinos are Malays&#8230;</p>
<p>Indians asking a million each even funnier from the Brits&#8230; your forefathers took the boat for a better life&#8230; if not you all would be still competing with 1.2 billion other Indians (do the math.. its better here anyday)&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: sank</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 04:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank for making this valuable information available to the public.e]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank for making this valuable information available to the public.e</p>
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		<title>By: damianstm</title>
		<link>http://theunspunblog.com/2007/01/18/malaysian-bloggers-sued/#comment-19243</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 03:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I coudn&#039;t have agreed more with Mr Chick. Why make such fuss about who&#039;s the rightful ancestors of the land and the privililages that only a rightful community should enjoy.... Let&#039;s face facts, our fore fathers were roaming the vast lands to spread their seeds around and we&#039;re the products of their investments. And Merdeka!! for all......]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I coudn&#8217;t have agreed more with Mr Chick. Why make such fuss about who&#8217;s the rightful ancestors of the land and the privililages that only a rightful community should enjoy&#8230;. Let&#8217;s face facts, our fore fathers were roaming the vast lands to spread their seeds around and we&#8217;re the products of their investments. And Merdeka!! for all&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Achmad Sudarsono</title>
		<link>http://theunspunblog.com/2007/01/18/malaysian-bloggers-sued/#comment-11062</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Achmad Sudarsono]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 02:28:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well the only reason Pramoedya Ananta Toer hasn&#039;t won the Nobel prize is because the White Man who runs the committee doesn&#039;t want to hear the Truth from him.  Nelson Mandela is at heart a Malay -- evident in his batik shirts.  And besides, Mr. T. Cotton, there&#039;s no such country as &#039;Malay&#039;.  I recommend in future you consult at Atlas, a Map, or the Internet before expressing your views.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well the only reason Pramoedya Ananta Toer hasn&#8217;t won the Nobel prize is because the White Man who runs the committee doesn&#8217;t want to hear the Truth from him.  Nelson Mandela is at heart a Malay &#8212; evident in his batik shirts.  And besides, Mr. T. Cotton, there&#8217;s no such country as &#8216;Malay&#8217;.  I recommend in future you consult at Atlas, a Map, or the Internet before expressing your views.</p>
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		<title>By: Achmad Sudarsono</title>
		<link>http://theunspunblog.com/2007/01/18/malaysian-bloggers-sued/#comment-10983</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Achmad Sudarsono]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 02:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Friend, 
I think this post is nothing more than propaganda put out by the White Man to slow his inevitable demise and the rise of the Malay race.  What are you saying, that we are the same as the White man LOL !  
Friend, the Malay may be slow, but he is sure. The Malay (unlike the White Man) still values the family and practices his religion. The last few centuries have just been a matter of the Malay biding his time, absorbing as much of the White Man&#039;s science and technology as possible, before taking over.  Overall, however, if the notion of not a pure Malay race wasn&#039;t so silly it&#039;d be offensive, if not dangerous.  There is nothing more frightening than miscegenation.
I thank you, Friend. 
Achmad.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Friend,<br />
I think this post is nothing more than propaganda put out by the White Man to slow his inevitable demise and the rise of the Malay race.  What are you saying, that we are the same as the White man LOL !<br />
Friend, the Malay may be slow, but he is sure. The Malay (unlike the White Man) still values the family and practices his religion. The last few centuries have just been a matter of the Malay biding his time, absorbing as much of the White Man&#8217;s science and technology as possible, before taking over.  Overall, however, if the notion of not a pure Malay race wasn&#8217;t so silly it&#8217;d be offensive, if not dangerous.  There is nothing more frightening than miscegenation.<br />
I thank you, Friend.<br />
Achmad.</p>
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		<title>By: T. Cotton</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 11:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Have any Malays ever won Nobel prizes: Malay nationals or Malay racially?]]></description>
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		<title>By: Should Unspun or shouldn't Unspun? &#171; Unspun</title>
		<link>http://theunspunblog.com/2007/01/18/malaysian-bloggers-sued/#comment-10664</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Should Unspun or shouldn't Unspun? &#171; Unspun]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 08:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] has posted a most fascinating and probably controversial commentary on the Malayness of Malays here. Unspun doesn&#8217;t necessarily agree with everything he says but think that it has some [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Michael Chick</title>
		<link>http://theunspunblog.com/2007/01/18/malaysian-bloggers-sued/#comment-10658</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Chick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 07:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s been interesting to read such free-flowing comments on an all &quot;Malaysian&quot; free for all. While we are on the subject, how many of you have read the book entitled &quot;Contesting Malayness&quot;? Written by a Professor of National University of Singapore. Cost S$32 (about). It reflects the Anthropologists views that there is no such race as the &quot;Malays&quot; to begin with. If we follow the original migration of the Southern Chinese of 6,000yrs ago, they moved into Taiwan, (now the Alisan), then into the Phillipines (now the Aeta) and moved into Borneo (4,500yrs ago) (Dayak). They also split into Sulawesi and progressed into Jawa, and Sumatera. The final migration was to the Malayan Peninsular 3,000yrs ago. A sub-group from Borneo also moved to Champa in Cambodia at 4,500yrs ago.

Interestingly, the Champa deviant group moved back to present day Kelantan. There are also traces of the Dong Song and HoaBinh migration from Vietnam and Cambodia. To confuse the issue, there was also the Southern Thai migration, from what we know as Pattani today. (see also &quot;Early Kingdoms of the Indonesian Archipelago and the Malay Peninsular&quot;)

Of course, we also have the Minangkabau&#039;s which come from the descendants of Alexander the Great and a West Indian Princess. (Sejarah Melayu page 1-3)

So the million Dollar Question... Is there really a race called the &quot;Malays&quot;? All anthropologists DO NOT SEEM TO THINK SO. 

Neither do the &quot;Malays&quot; who live on the West Coast of Johor. They&#039;d rather be called Javanese. What about the west coast Kedah inhabitants who prefer to be known as &quot;Achenese&quot;? or the Ibans who simply want to be known as IBANS. Try calling a Kelabit a &quot;Malay&quot; and see what response you get... you’ll be so glad that their Head-Hunting days are over.

The definition of “Malay” is therefore simply a collection of people&#039;s who speak a similar type language. With what is meant by a similar type language does not mean that the words are similar. Linguists call this the &quot;Lego-type&quot; language, where words are added on to the root word to make meaning and give tenses and such. Somehow, the Indonesians disagree with this classification. They refuse to be called Malay…. Anyhow you may define it. Watch “Malays in Africa”; a Museum Negara produced DVD. Also, the “Champa Malays” by the same.

With this classification, they MUST also include the Phillipinos, the Papua New Guineans, the Australian Aboroginies, as well as the Polynesian Aboroginies. These are of the Australo Melanesians who migrated out of Africa 60,000yrs ago.

Getting interesting? Read on...

&quot;Malay&quot; should also include the Taiwanese singer &quot;Ah Mei&quot; who is Alisan as her tribe are the anscestors of the &quot;Malays&quot;. And finally, you will need to define the Southern Chinese (Funan Province) as Malay also, since they are from the same stock 6,000yrs ago.

Try calling the Bugis a &quot;Malay&quot;. Interestingly, the Bugis, who predominantly live on Sulawesi are not even Indonesians. Neither do they fall into the same group as the migrating Southern Chinese of 6,000yrs ago nor the Australo Melanesian group from Africa.

Ready for this?

The Bugis are the cross-breed between the Chinese and the Arabs. (FYI, a runaway Ming Dynasty official whom Cheng Ho was sent to hunt down) Interestingly, the Bugis were career Pirates in the Johor-Riau Island areas. Now the nephew of Daeng Kemboja was appointed the First Sultan of Selangor. That makes the entire Selangor Sultanate part Arab, part Chinese! Try talking to the Bugis Museum curator near Kukup in Johor. Kukup is located near the most south-western tip of Johor. (Due south of Pontian Kechil)

Let&#039;s not even get into the Hang Tuah, Hang Jebat, Hang Kasturi, Hang Lekiu, and Hang Lekir, who shared the same family last name as the other super famous &quot;Hang&quot; family member... Hang Li Poh. And who was she? the princess of a Ming Dynasty Emperor who was sent to marry the Sultan of Malacca. Won&#039;t that make the entire Malacca Sultanate downline &quot;Baba&quot; ? Since the older son of the collapsed Malaccan Sultanate got killed in Johor, (the current Sultanate is the downline of the then, Bendahara) the only other son became the Sultan of Perak. Do we see any Chinese-ness in Raja Azlan? Is he the descendant of Hang Li Poh?

Next question. If the Baba’s are part Malay, why have they been marginalized by NOT BEING BUMIPUTERA? Which part of “Malay” are they not? Whatever the answer, why then are the Portugese of Malacca BUMIPUTERA? Did they not come 100yrs AFTER the arrival of the first Baba’s? Parameswara founded Malacca in 1411. The Portugese came in 1511, and the Dutch in the 1600’s. Strangely, the Baba’s ere in fact once classified a Bumiputera, but a decided that they were strangely “declassified” in the 1960’s. WHY?

The Sultan of Kelantan had similar roots to the Pattani Kingdom making him of Thai origin. And what is this &quot;coffee table book&quot; by the Sultan of Perlis claiming to be the direct descendant of the prophet Muhammed? Somehow we see Prof Khoo Khay Khim’s signature name on the book. I’ll pay good money to own a copy of it myself. Anyone has a spare?

So, how many of you have met with orang Asli’s? the more northern you go, the more African they look. Why are they called Negrito’s? It is a Spanish word, from which directly transalates “mini Negros”.  The more southern you go, the more “Indonesian” they look. And the ones who live at Cameron Highlands kinda look 50-50. You can see the Batek at Taman Negara, who really look like Eddie Murphy to a certain degree. Or the Negritos who live at the Thai border near Temenggor Lake (north Perak). The Mah Meri in Carrie Island look almost like the Jakuns in Endau Rompin. Half African, half Indonesian.

By definition, (this is super eye-opening) there was a Hindu Malay Empire in Kedah. Yes, I said right… The Malays were Hindu. It was, by the old name Langkasuka. Today known as Lembah Bujang. This Hindu Malay Empire was 2,000yrs old. Pre-dating Borrobudor AND Angkor Watt. Who came about around 500-600yrs later. Lembah Bujang was THE mighty trading empire, and its biggest influence was by the Indians who were here to help start it. By definition, this should make the Indians BUMIPUTERAS too since they were here 2,000yrs ago! Why are they marginalized?

So, in a nutshell, the “Malays” (anthropologists will disagree with this “race” definition) are TRULY ASIA !!! (main continent and West Asia included)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s been interesting to read such free-flowing comments on an all &#8220;Malaysian&#8221; free for all. While we are on the subject, how many of you have read the book entitled &#8220;Contesting Malayness&#8221;? Written by a Professor of National University of Singapore. Cost S$32 (about). It reflects the Anthropologists views that there is no such race as the &#8220;Malays&#8221; to begin with. If we follow the original migration of the Southern Chinese of 6,000yrs ago, they moved into Taiwan, (now the Alisan), then into the Phillipines (now the Aeta) and moved into Borneo (4,500yrs ago) (Dayak). They also split into Sulawesi and progressed into Jawa, and Sumatera. The final migration was to the Malayan Peninsular 3,000yrs ago. A sub-group from Borneo also moved to Champa in Cambodia at 4,500yrs ago.</p>
<p>Interestingly, the Champa deviant group moved back to present day Kelantan. There are also traces of the Dong Song and HoaBinh migration from Vietnam and Cambodia. To confuse the issue, there was also the Southern Thai migration, from what we know as Pattani today. (see also &#8220;Early Kingdoms of the Indonesian Archipelago and the Malay Peninsular&#8221;)</p>
<p>Of course, we also have the Minangkabau&#8217;s which come from the descendants of Alexander the Great and a West Indian Princess. (Sejarah Melayu page 1-3)</p>
<p>So the million Dollar Question&#8230; Is there really a race called the &#8220;Malays&#8221;? All anthropologists DO NOT SEEM TO THINK SO. </p>
<p>Neither do the &#8220;Malays&#8221; who live on the West Coast of Johor. They&#8217;d rather be called Javanese. What about the west coast Kedah inhabitants who prefer to be known as &#8220;Achenese&#8221;? or the Ibans who simply want to be known as IBANS. Try calling a Kelabit a &#8220;Malay&#8221; and see what response you get&#8230; you’ll be so glad that their Head-Hunting days are over.</p>
<p>The definition of “Malay” is therefore simply a collection of people&#8217;s who speak a similar type language. With what is meant by a similar type language does not mean that the words are similar. Linguists call this the &#8220;Lego-type&#8221; language, where words are added on to the root word to make meaning and give tenses and such. Somehow, the Indonesians disagree with this classification. They refuse to be called Malay…. Anyhow you may define it. Watch “Malays in Africa”; a Museum Negara produced DVD. Also, the “Champa Malays” by the same.</p>
<p>With this classification, they MUST also include the Phillipinos, the Papua New Guineans, the Australian Aboroginies, as well as the Polynesian Aboroginies. These are of the Australo Melanesians who migrated out of Africa 60,000yrs ago.</p>
<p>Getting interesting? Read on&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Malay&#8221; should also include the Taiwanese singer &#8220;Ah Mei&#8221; who is Alisan as her tribe are the anscestors of the &#8220;Malays&#8221;. And finally, you will need to define the Southern Chinese (Funan Province) as Malay also, since they are from the same stock 6,000yrs ago.</p>
<p>Try calling the Bugis a &#8220;Malay&#8221;. Interestingly, the Bugis, who predominantly live on Sulawesi are not even Indonesians. Neither do they fall into the same group as the migrating Southern Chinese of 6,000yrs ago nor the Australo Melanesian group from Africa.</p>
<p>Ready for this?</p>
<p>The Bugis are the cross-breed between the Chinese and the Arabs. (FYI, a runaway Ming Dynasty official whom Cheng Ho was sent to hunt down) Interestingly, the Bugis were career Pirates in the Johor-Riau Island areas. Now the nephew of Daeng Kemboja was appointed the First Sultan of Selangor. That makes the entire Selangor Sultanate part Arab, part Chinese! Try talking to the Bugis Museum curator near Kukup in Johor. Kukup is located near the most south-western tip of Johor. (Due south of Pontian Kechil)</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s not even get into the Hang Tuah, Hang Jebat, Hang Kasturi, Hang Lekiu, and Hang Lekir, who shared the same family last name as the other super famous &#8220;Hang&#8221; family member&#8230; Hang Li Poh. And who was she? the princess of a Ming Dynasty Emperor who was sent to marry the Sultan of Malacca. Won&#8217;t that make the entire Malacca Sultanate downline &#8220;Baba&#8221; ? Since the older son of the collapsed Malaccan Sultanate got killed in Johor, (the current Sultanate is the downline of the then, Bendahara) the only other son became the Sultan of Perak. Do we see any Chinese-ness in Raja Azlan? Is he the descendant of Hang Li Poh?</p>
<p>Next question. If the Baba’s are part Malay, why have they been marginalized by NOT BEING BUMIPUTERA? Which part of “Malay” are they not? Whatever the answer, why then are the Portugese of Malacca BUMIPUTERA? Did they not come 100yrs AFTER the arrival of the first Baba’s? Parameswara founded Malacca in 1411. The Portugese came in 1511, and the Dutch in the 1600’s. Strangely, the Baba’s ere in fact once classified a Bumiputera, but a decided that they were strangely “declassified” in the 1960’s. WHY?</p>
<p>The Sultan of Kelantan had similar roots to the Pattani Kingdom making him of Thai origin. And what is this &#8220;coffee table book&#8221; by the Sultan of Perlis claiming to be the direct descendant of the prophet Muhammed? Somehow we see Prof Khoo Khay Khim’s signature name on the book. I’ll pay good money to own a copy of it myself. Anyone has a spare?</p>
<p>So, how many of you have met with orang Asli’s? the more northern you go, the more African they look. Why are they called Negrito’s? It is a Spanish word, from which directly transalates “mini Negros”.  The more southern you go, the more “Indonesian” they look. And the ones who live at Cameron Highlands kinda look 50-50. You can see the Batek at Taman Negara, who really look like Eddie Murphy to a certain degree. Or the Negritos who live at the Thai border near Temenggor Lake (north Perak). The Mah Meri in Carrie Island look almost like the Jakuns in Endau Rompin. Half African, half Indonesian.</p>
<p>By definition, (this is super eye-opening) there was a Hindu Malay Empire in Kedah. Yes, I said right… The Malays were Hindu. It was, by the old name Langkasuka. Today known as Lembah Bujang. This Hindu Malay Empire was 2,000yrs old. Pre-dating Borrobudor AND Angkor Watt. Who came about around 500-600yrs later. Lembah Bujang was THE mighty trading empire, and its biggest influence was by the Indians who were here to help start it. By definition, this should make the Indians BUMIPUTERAS too since they were here 2,000yrs ago! Why are they marginalized?</p>
<p>So, in a nutshell, the “Malays” (anthropologists will disagree with this “race” definition) are TRULY ASIA !!! (main continent and West Asia included)</p>
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