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		<title>By: RELAwan</title>
		<link>http://theunspunblog.com/2007/10/05/malaysian-tourism-minister-on-rasa-sayang/#comment-54501</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 08:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Now .... we see a new claim  by Malaysian Tourism Board .... Pendet Dance ... Hahahaha
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Seniman Bali Protes Klaim Malaysia atas Tari Pendet
Sabtu, 22 Agustus 2009 

TEMPO Interaktif, Denpasar - Kalangan seniman Bali memprotes klaim Malaysia atas Tari Pendet yang digunakan dalam iklan Visit to Malaysia. Tindakan itu dianggap sebagai pencurian atas kekayaan budaya masyarakat Bali.

Seniman tari Wayan Dibia mengaku terkejut dengan kejadian itu. “Pendet adalah tari yang sudah ratusan tahun dimainkan warga Bali,” ujar mantan Rektor Institut Seni Indonesia (ISI) Denpasar itu, Sabtu (22/8). 

Pada awalnya, tari itu adalah tari sakral yang dipertunjukkan pada upacara ritual keagamaan untuk menyambut turunnya para dewa dari kahyangan.

Tetapi pada 1950, tarian tersebut dimodifikasi menjadi tari penyambutan tamu dengan mendapat sebutan khusus sebagai Tari Pendet Puja Astuti. Penciptanya Ni Ketut Reneng dan I Wayan Rindi menjadikan Pendet dengan empat penari sebagai bagian dari pertunjukan turistik di Bali Hotel (Denpasar). 

Pada tahun 1961, I Wayan Beratha mengolah kembali tari Pendet dengan lima penari yang bertahan hingga saat ini. ”Tahun 1962 kembali dimodifikasi sebagai tarian massal dengan 800 penari untuk pembukaan Asian Game di Jakarta,” jelas dia. 

Protes kalangan seniman itu akan difasilitasi Dewan Perwakilan Daerah (DPD) RI untuk menjadi protes resmi dari lembaga negara di Indonesia. Anggota DPD RI dari Bali Ida Ayu Mas menyatakan, sikap pihak Malaysia itu tidak bisa dibiarkan. ”Apalagi sudah ada beberapa kejadian sebelumnya,” ujar dia.

Sementara itu DPD RI juga akan meminta pemerintah Indonesia untuk merlindungi karya-karya budaya nusantara. Misalnya dengan mengurus hak cipta dari komunitas budaya di Indonesia. Karya-karya itu harus dianggap sebagai kekayaan bangsa yang tidak bisa sembarangan diklaim bangsa lain.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now &#8230;. we see a new claim  by Malaysian Tourism Board &#8230;. Pendet Dance &#8230; Hahahaha<br />
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Seniman Bali Protes Klaim Malaysia atas Tari Pendet<br />
Sabtu, 22 Agustus 2009 </p>
<p>TEMPO Interaktif, Denpasar &#8211; Kalangan seniman Bali memprotes klaim Malaysia atas Tari Pendet yang digunakan dalam iklan Visit to Malaysia. Tindakan itu dianggap sebagai pencurian atas kekayaan budaya masyarakat Bali.</p>
<p>Seniman tari Wayan Dibia mengaku terkejut dengan kejadian itu. “Pendet adalah tari yang sudah ratusan tahun dimainkan warga Bali,” ujar mantan Rektor Institut Seni Indonesia (ISI) Denpasar itu, Sabtu (22/8). </p>
<p>Pada awalnya, tari itu adalah tari sakral yang dipertunjukkan pada upacara ritual keagamaan untuk menyambut turunnya para dewa dari kahyangan.</p>
<p>Tetapi pada 1950, tarian tersebut dimodifikasi menjadi tari penyambutan tamu dengan mendapat sebutan khusus sebagai Tari Pendet Puja Astuti. Penciptanya Ni Ketut Reneng dan I Wayan Rindi menjadikan Pendet dengan empat penari sebagai bagian dari pertunjukan turistik di Bali Hotel (Denpasar). </p>
<p>Pada tahun 1961, I Wayan Beratha mengolah kembali tari Pendet dengan lima penari yang bertahan hingga saat ini. ”Tahun 1962 kembali dimodifikasi sebagai tarian massal dengan 800 penari untuk pembukaan Asian Game di Jakarta,” jelas dia. </p>
<p>Protes kalangan seniman itu akan difasilitasi Dewan Perwakilan Daerah (DPD) RI untuk menjadi protes resmi dari lembaga negara di Indonesia. Anggota DPD RI dari Bali Ida Ayu Mas menyatakan, sikap pihak Malaysia itu tidak bisa dibiarkan. ”Apalagi sudah ada beberapa kejadian sebelumnya,” ujar dia.</p>
<p>Sementara itu DPD RI juga akan meminta pemerintah Indonesia untuk merlindungi karya-karya budaya nusantara. Misalnya dengan mengurus hak cipta dari komunitas budaya di Indonesia. Karya-karya itu harus dianggap sebagai kekayaan bangsa yang tidak bisa sembarangan diklaim bangsa lain.</p>
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		<title>By: Vic.Kyle.Ellanne</title>
		<link>http://theunspunblog.com/2007/10/05/malaysian-tourism-minister-on-rasa-sayang/#comment-26557</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vic.Kyle.Ellanne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi hi, let&#039;s just say that all scientific and general names records are done by the the Western World (Yes, unfortunately, they are still the stronger powers on earth since the last few centuries). 

When they reached our shores hundreds of years back, Malacca was more famous and Malay languange were the lingua franca during that time. So, being new to the region, they conveniently categorised all ethnic groups in these regions as Malays. This includes every locals from Malaysia, Indonesia, Singapore, Brunei &amp; Philipines irregardless what ethnic they were as long as they are brown skin and speaks Malays.  The same mistake were done on both Chinese &amp; Indians by the world. Pls see my comment in Should Unspun or shouldn’t Unspun?
http://theunspunblog.com/2007/05/10/should-unspun-or-shouldnt-unspun/#comment-25710

@HumbleObservation &amp; Rusdi Mustapha - I think your queries are best answered in that thread.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi hi, let&#8217;s just say that all scientific and general names records are done by the the Western World (Yes, unfortunately, they are still the stronger powers on earth since the last few centuries). </p>
<p>When they reached our shores hundreds of years back, Malacca was more famous and Malay languange were the lingua franca during that time. So, being new to the region, they conveniently categorised all ethnic groups in these regions as Malays. This includes every locals from Malaysia, Indonesia, Singapore, Brunei &amp; Philipines irregardless what ethnic they were as long as they are brown skin and speaks Malays.  The same mistake were done on both Chinese &amp; Indians by the world. Pls see my comment in Should Unspun or shouldn’t Unspun?<br />
<a href="http://theunspunblog.com/2007/05/10/should-unspun-or-shouldnt-unspun/#comment-25710" rel="nofollow">http://theunspunblog.com/2007/05/10/should-unspun-or-shouldnt-unspun/#comment-25710</a></p>
<p>@HumbleObservation &amp; Rusdi Mustapha &#8211; I think your queries are best answered in that thread.</p>
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		<title>By: HumbleObservation</title>
		<link>http://theunspunblog.com/2007/10/05/malaysian-tourism-minister-on-rasa-sayang/#comment-26489</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[HumbleObservation]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 14:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[there is no such thing as malay ethnic, you could become malay if you are javanese, or maluku, or minang or filipino, but the other way round not possible, just simple example, current johor sultan is bugis line, parameswara from sumatera, probabaly minangkabau, riau people is orang laut, ... who is malay anyway? kelantanese is malay... is it? part of them are people from champa kingdom in southern vietname..., pattani?... there are both pattani and malay, there are both bugis and malay, there are both javanese and malay... at then end of the day, its the people themself, the decide who they are]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there is no such thing as malay ethnic, you could become malay if you are javanese, or maluku, or minang or filipino, but the other way round not possible, just simple example, current johor sultan is bugis line, parameswara from sumatera, probabaly minangkabau, riau people is orang laut, &#8230; who is malay anyway? kelantanese is malay&#8230; is it? part of them are people from champa kingdom in southern vietname&#8230;, pattani?&#8230; there are both pattani and malay, there are both bugis and malay, there are both javanese and malay&#8230; at then end of the day, its the people themself, the decide who they are</p>
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		<title>By: HumbleObservation</title>
		<link>http://theunspunblog.com/2007/10/05/malaysian-tourism-minister-on-rasa-sayang/#comment-26412</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[HumbleObservation]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i&#039;ve been following the subject of malay for sometime and I think malay its something like the use of chinese, who is chinese, what is the definition of chinse?, as far as i know there is han ethnic, uquir, manchu etc (correct me if i&#039;me wrong here).

some interesting note, i remember reading some article (its indonesian and i dont remember what magazine it is) about representation of etchnic is some park, so in that park, they were able to represent javaness desgin, batak, bugis, acheh, minangkabau etc, however there is no malay design, and when asked the curator (i guess) said, it is dificult and unsure what to do because he cant determine what is malay.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;ve been following the subject of malay for sometime and I think malay its something like the use of chinese, who is chinese, what is the definition of chinse?, as far as i know there is han ethnic, uquir, manchu etc (correct me if i&#8217;me wrong here).</p>
<p>some interesting note, i remember reading some article (its indonesian and i dont remember what magazine it is) about representation of etchnic is some park, so in that park, they were able to represent javaness desgin, batak, bugis, acheh, minangkabau etc, however there is no malay design, and when asked the curator (i guess) said, it is dificult and unsure what to do because he cant determine what is malay.</p>
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		<title>By: malingsia</title>
		<link>http://theunspunblog.com/2007/10/05/malaysian-tourism-minister-on-rasa-sayang/#comment-25761</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[malingsia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 09:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just quoted from your post :

&quot;If you go by the first definition then sure, Malaysia has the right to use anything in the Malay Archipelago because it belongs to the Malay race.&quot;

Strange....
Rasa sayang song even not come from Malay ethnic. It come from Maluccu,eastern part of Indonesia.
Come on,don&#039;t make any argument for an excuse. Just tell the world that the song is coming from Indonesian heritage. That&#039;s it !]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just quoted from your post :</p>
<p>&#8220;If you go by the first definition then sure, Malaysia has the right to use anything in the Malay Archipelago because it belongs to the Malay race.&#8221;</p>
<p>Strange&#8230;.<br />
Rasa sayang song even not come from Malay ethnic. It come from Maluccu,eastern part of Indonesia.<br />
Come on,don&#8217;t make any argument for an excuse. Just tell the world that the song is coming from Indonesian heritage. That&#8217;s it !</p>
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		<title>By: Achmad Sudarsono</title>
		<link>http://theunspunblog.com/2007/10/05/malaysian-tourism-minister-on-rasa-sayang/#comment-25579</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Achmad Sudarsono]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 02:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Unspun -- brilliant idea !  It&#039;s time to sue all those bastards who sprang from the Rumah Korban Lelaki (hospital).  

Just who do they think they are with their weird Riau accents, anyway ? As Soekarno said, Malaysia was the puppet of Britain (negara bhoneka inggris).

Thank you, also for displaying the proof of the Malay race.  Ultimately, we are all one family, but differences are normal, even natural in a democracy.  Time to make Malaysia our maid, especially this week when we&#039;re all short !]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unspun &#8212; brilliant idea !  It&#8217;s time to sue all those bastards who sprang from the Rumah Korban Lelaki (hospital).  </p>
<p>Just who do they think they are with their weird Riau accents, anyway ? As Soekarno said, Malaysia was the puppet of Britain (negara bhoneka inggris).</p>
<p>Thank you, also for displaying the proof of the Malay race.  Ultimately, we are all one family, but differences are normal, even natural in a democracy.  Time to make Malaysia our maid, especially this week when we&#8217;re all short !</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Chick</title>
		<link>http://theunspunblog.com/2007/10/05/malaysian-tourism-minister-on-rasa-sayang/#comment-25429</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Chick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 05:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When does everyone migrate back home for the raya? Drive safe, and if anyone gets sleepy, please pull over fro a quick nap, piss and have a good &quot;strong&quot; cup of coffee before continuing. Don&#039;t die, and do please come back so we can continue this friendly sparring sessions.

Happy Raya to you&#039;all..... :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When does everyone migrate back home for the raya? Drive safe, and if anyone gets sleepy, please pull over fro a quick nap, piss and have a good &#8220;strong&#8221; cup of coffee before continuing. Don&#8217;t die, and do please come back so we can continue this friendly sparring sessions.</p>
<p>Happy Raya to you&#8217;all&#8230;.. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: kamarul</title>
		<link>http://theunspunblog.com/2007/10/05/malaysian-tourism-minister-on-rasa-sayang/#comment-25428</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kamarul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 05:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[again mike u are talking the wrong way around, how many times do i have to tell ya huh???
this ketuanan thing was created by those UMNO ppl lah, its political, its not even widely accepted in malaysia. cut the crap aledy and cheer up dude, u really need to think more and less research...crap]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>again mike u are talking the wrong way around, how many times do i have to tell ya huh???<br />
this ketuanan thing was created by those UMNO ppl lah, its political, its not even widely accepted in malaysia. cut the crap aledy and cheer up dude, u really need to think more and less research&#8230;crap</p>
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		<title>By: kamarul</title>
		<link>http://theunspunblog.com/2007/10/05/malaysian-tourism-minister-on-rasa-sayang/#comment-25427</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kamarul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 05:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Happy Hari Raya and cheers to Rusdi hehe]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy Hari Raya and cheers to Rusdi hehe</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Chick</title>
		<link>http://theunspunblog.com/2007/10/05/malaysian-tourism-minister-on-rasa-sayang/#comment-25426</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Chick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 05:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let&#039;s draw a parralell, for simplicity sake. i hope we all put our thinking caps on for this. 

The &quot;Hokkiens&quot; are a race!  Anyone who also is not a Buddhist ceases to be called Hokkiens! So, Hookine Christians cease to be Hokkiens immediately. At best, they are class two migrants who live onthe same land. They will be called a &quot;pendatang&quot;. And anyone else (including Arabs, Africans, British, etc) who Speaks Hokkien, Dresses like a Hokkien, practises Hokkien customs; will from today be called a member of the Hokkien Race. The Hokkien Race is the BEST RACE on earth. They will call it the &quot;Ketuanan Hokkien&quot;. aka the &quot;Lordship of the Hokkien Race&quot;

Does anyone else see how absurd this sounds?

Now replace the word Hokkien with Malay, and Buddhism with Islam. Go figure this....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s draw a parralell, for simplicity sake. i hope we all put our thinking caps on for this. </p>
<p>The &#8220;Hokkiens&#8221; are a race!  Anyone who also is not a Buddhist ceases to be called Hokkiens! So, Hookine Christians cease to be Hokkiens immediately. At best, they are class two migrants who live onthe same land. They will be called a &#8220;pendatang&#8221;. And anyone else (including Arabs, Africans, British, etc) who Speaks Hokkien, Dresses like a Hokkien, practises Hokkien customs; will from today be called a member of the Hokkien Race. The Hokkien Race is the BEST RACE on earth. They will call it the &#8220;Ketuanan Hokkien&#8221;. aka the &#8220;Lordship of the Hokkien Race&#8221;</p>
<p>Does anyone else see how absurd this sounds?</p>
<p>Now replace the word Hokkien with Malay, and Buddhism with Islam. Go figure this&#8230;.</p>
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