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	<title>Comments on: How should Malaysia read the Jakarta &#8220;sweep&#8221; for its nationals?</title>
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		<title>By: bayi</title>
		<link>http://theunspunblog.com/2009/09/11/how-should-malaysia-read-the-jakarta-sweep-for-its-nationals/#comment-58507</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bayi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 13:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;the malay-ness in Malaysia is a political construct and not based on culture.&quot; This is in fact the root problem. In trying to maintain a facade of being authentically malay, the politically constructed malay tries to be come more malay than the authentic malay.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the malay-ness in Malaysia is a political construct and not based on culture.&#8221; This is in fact the root problem. In trying to maintain a facade of being authentically malay, the politically constructed malay tries to be come more malay than the authentic malay.</p>
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		<title>By: damian</title>
		<link>http://theunspunblog.com/2009/09/11/how-should-malaysia-read-the-jakarta-sweep-for-its-nationals/#comment-58493</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[damian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 20:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[the malay-ness in Malaysia is a political construct and not based on culture. the malaysian constitution clearly states that a person is a malay if he practices the malay culture etc etc. what is exactly a malay culture when you have achehnese, minang, javanese, turkish, bugis in malaysia. how do we lump all of that together and say for sure these are actually malay people &amp; practising malay culture. the assimilation must have been really good and effective for this to happen.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the malay-ness in Malaysia is a political construct and not based on culture. the malaysian constitution clearly states that a person is a malay if he practices the malay culture etc etc. what is exactly a malay culture when you have achehnese, minang, javanese, turkish, bugis in malaysia. how do we lump all of that together and say for sure these are actually malay people &amp; practising malay culture. the assimilation must have been really good and effective for this to happen.</p>
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		<title>By: orang sabah</title>
		<link>http://theunspunblog.com/2009/09/11/how-should-malaysia-read-the-jakarta-sweep-for-its-nationals/#comment-55063</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[orang sabah]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 17:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Saya hairan dan terkejut atas tindakan ekstremis BENDERA. Kami di sabah selama ini hidup harmoni dengan warga indonesia yang bertandang ke sini. Untuk pengetahuan semua, kebanyakan warga indonesia yang menetap di sabah mempunyai keluarga angkat yang sangat akrab malah ada yang dianggap sudah seperti keluarga sendiri. Tidak tahulah kalau sebaliknya berlaku di semenanjung malaysia atau di indonesia sendiri.

Untuk info juga, lebih ramai warga indonesia yang berjaya di sabah dan mungkin juga di sarawak sebagai ahli perniagaan. Dahulunya mereka bermula sebagai penjual pisang goreng, penjual sayur, peniaga pasar malam atau berkebun kini menjadi golongan yang berkemampuan dan memiliki harta sama atau lebih tinggi nilainya seperti golongan pertengahan rakyat malaysia yang lain.. Jadi apakah persepsi warga indonesia ditindas dan dikasari itu berlaku sepenuhnya (100%)??? Pendapat saya ialah memang terdapatnya kes penindasan terhadap pekerja warga indonesia, tetapi ianya sama sahaja terhadap warga malaysia yang ditindas oleh majikan mereka yang juga letaknya di tanah malaysia sendiri!

Adakah kita serumpun???
Mungkin juga jika saya orang melayu.. tetapi hakikatnya saya adalah kacukan dusun dan brunei.. TETAPI saya masih boleh bertoleransi dan menghormati perasaaan, budaya dan pemikiran warga indonesia yang bertandang ke malaysia. Malah kita tidak perlu serumpun pun jika ingin hidup aman... Dengan perasaan kasih sayang, saling menghormati, kerjasama, saling mempercayai serta kerjasama yang erat pastinya membuahkan talian persaudaraan yang erat walaupun berlainan rumpun...

Perebutan Sempadan???
Itu adalah perkara biasa bagi negara yang berjiran. Pastinya tidak ada satu pihak pun yang akan membiarkan miliknya diambil orang..

Masakan Rendang???
Kami di malaysia percaya kebanyakan masakan melayu berasal daripada indonesia.. Hakikatnya masakan di alaf baru ini banyak berorientasikan FUSION yakni gabungan citarasa, budaya, cara, dan bermacam-macam lagi.. Sebab itulah wujudnya rendang tok, rendang kemboja, dan bermacam2 rendang alaf baru yang makin popular dikalangan pelancung.. Maka adakah masakan ini patut menjadi alasan utama sesebuah negara untuk menyerang jirannya?..

Pasal Tarian???
entahlah, di malaysia sendiri ada bermacam-macam tarian. Tetapi setahu saya tarian melayu kebanyakannya berasal dari indonesia juga.. Lain pula hahnya tarian kaum dusun yang dipercayai ada hubung kait dengan tanah besar cina..

Harapan saya agar kedua-dua kerajaan dan pemimpin memainkan peranan dalam meredakan kemarahan dan provokasi antara Malaysia dan Indonesia!!! Jangan biarkan perang meletus disebabkan angkara remeh temeh!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saya hairan dan terkejut atas tindakan ekstremis BENDERA. Kami di sabah selama ini hidup harmoni dengan warga indonesia yang bertandang ke sini. Untuk pengetahuan semua, kebanyakan warga indonesia yang menetap di sabah mempunyai keluarga angkat yang sangat akrab malah ada yang dianggap sudah seperti keluarga sendiri. Tidak tahulah kalau sebaliknya berlaku di semenanjung malaysia atau di indonesia sendiri.</p>
<p>Untuk info juga, lebih ramai warga indonesia yang berjaya di sabah dan mungkin juga di sarawak sebagai ahli perniagaan. Dahulunya mereka bermula sebagai penjual pisang goreng, penjual sayur, peniaga pasar malam atau berkebun kini menjadi golongan yang berkemampuan dan memiliki harta sama atau lebih tinggi nilainya seperti golongan pertengahan rakyat malaysia yang lain.. Jadi apakah persepsi warga indonesia ditindas dan dikasari itu berlaku sepenuhnya (100%)??? Pendapat saya ialah memang terdapatnya kes penindasan terhadap pekerja warga indonesia, tetapi ianya sama sahaja terhadap warga malaysia yang ditindas oleh majikan mereka yang juga letaknya di tanah malaysia sendiri!</p>
<p>Adakah kita serumpun???<br />
Mungkin juga jika saya orang melayu.. tetapi hakikatnya saya adalah kacukan dusun dan brunei.. TETAPI saya masih boleh bertoleransi dan menghormati perasaaan, budaya dan pemikiran warga indonesia yang bertandang ke malaysia. Malah kita tidak perlu serumpun pun jika ingin hidup aman&#8230; Dengan perasaan kasih sayang, saling menghormati, kerjasama, saling mempercayai serta kerjasama yang erat pastinya membuahkan talian persaudaraan yang erat walaupun berlainan rumpun&#8230;</p>
<p>Perebutan Sempadan???<br />
Itu adalah perkara biasa bagi negara yang berjiran. Pastinya tidak ada satu pihak pun yang akan membiarkan miliknya diambil orang..</p>
<p>Masakan Rendang???<br />
Kami di malaysia percaya kebanyakan masakan melayu berasal daripada indonesia.. Hakikatnya masakan di alaf baru ini banyak berorientasikan FUSION yakni gabungan citarasa, budaya, cara, dan bermacam-macam lagi.. Sebab itulah wujudnya rendang tok, rendang kemboja, dan bermacam2 rendang alaf baru yang makin popular dikalangan pelancung.. Maka adakah masakan ini patut menjadi alasan utama sesebuah negara untuk menyerang jirannya?..</p>
<p>Pasal Tarian???<br />
entahlah, di malaysia sendiri ada bermacam-macam tarian. Tetapi setahu saya tarian melayu kebanyakannya berasal dari indonesia juga.. Lain pula hahnya tarian kaum dusun yang dipercayai ada hubung kait dengan tanah besar cina..</p>
<p>Harapan saya agar kedua-dua kerajaan dan pemimpin memainkan peranan dalam meredakan kemarahan dan provokasi antara Malaysia dan Indonesia!!! Jangan biarkan perang meletus disebabkan angkara remeh temeh!</p>
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		<title>By: wahyu</title>
		<link>http://theunspunblog.com/2009/09/11/how-should-malaysia-read-the-jakarta-sweep-for-its-nationals/#comment-54856</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wahyu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 09:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[masalahnya melayu secara budaya memang bukanlah nama bangsa tetapi nama suku.. sejak jaman dahulu masyarakat nusantara mengetahui melayu sebagai sebuah suku bukan bangsa seperti halnya suku jawa, padang dan lainnya.. melayu sebagai sebuah bangsa hanyalah buatan pemerintah malaysia untuk kepentingan politik sepertinya yakni mempertahankan mayoritas kelompok melayu disananya.. namun saya juga tidak menganggapnya salah itu urusan negara anda.. menjadi masalah ketika anda membawa pemikiran melayu sebagai bangsa ke luar wilayah malaysia.. pasti akan terjadi konflik karena pada dasarnya pemikiran teresebut hanya rekaan pemerintah anda yang negara2 lain di wilayah nusantara pasti tidak akan menerima.. maslahnya malaysia sepertinya berusaha memaksakan pemikiran rekaannya tentang bangsa malaysia tersebut ke negara-negara lainnya di wilayah nusantara.. inilah yang membuat konflik budaya antara malaysia dengan indonesia..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>masalahnya melayu secara budaya memang bukanlah nama bangsa tetapi nama suku.. sejak jaman dahulu masyarakat nusantara mengetahui melayu sebagai sebuah suku bukan bangsa seperti halnya suku jawa, padang dan lainnya.. melayu sebagai sebuah bangsa hanyalah buatan pemerintah malaysia untuk kepentingan politik sepertinya yakni mempertahankan mayoritas kelompok melayu disananya.. namun saya juga tidak menganggapnya salah itu urusan negara anda.. menjadi masalah ketika anda membawa pemikiran melayu sebagai bangsa ke luar wilayah malaysia.. pasti akan terjadi konflik karena pada dasarnya pemikiran teresebut hanya rekaan pemerintah anda yang negara2 lain di wilayah nusantara pasti tidak akan menerima.. maslahnya malaysia sepertinya berusaha memaksakan pemikiran rekaannya tentang bangsa malaysia tersebut ke negara-negara lainnya di wilayah nusantara.. inilah yang membuat konflik budaya antara malaysia dengan indonesia..</p>
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		<title>By: Eurasian Sensation</title>
		<link>http://theunspunblog.com/2009/09/11/how-should-malaysia-read-the-jakarta-sweep-for-its-nationals/#comment-54834</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eurasian Sensation]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 17:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ellese, while it is great if you and your friends do not look down on Indonesians, you have to understand that this is not always the case with all Malaysians. It is hard to deny that many Malaysians have an arrogant outlook towards their southern neighbours. An example is the amount of abuse that goes on behind closed doors towards Indonesian maids.

While many countries have traditions of rivalry or mocking towards their neighbours - Australia towards New Zealand, or the English towards the Welsh, for example - the economic differences between Malaysia and Indonesia exacerbate this. The majority of Indonesians encountered by Malaysians are lowly-paid and largely uneducated workers from poor backgrounds, which can foster a sense of superiority among the richer Malaysians. Add to that the usual xenophobic resentments that occur when migrant workers enter a wealthier country, and you have a clearer picture of why Indonesians feel hard done by.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ellese, while it is great if you and your friends do not look down on Indonesians, you have to understand that this is not always the case with all Malaysians. It is hard to deny that many Malaysians have an arrogant outlook towards their southern neighbours. An example is the amount of abuse that goes on behind closed doors towards Indonesian maids.</p>
<p>While many countries have traditions of rivalry or mocking towards their neighbours &#8211; Australia towards New Zealand, or the English towards the Welsh, for example &#8211; the economic differences between Malaysia and Indonesia exacerbate this. The majority of Indonesians encountered by Malaysians are lowly-paid and largely uneducated workers from poor backgrounds, which can foster a sense of superiority among the richer Malaysians. Add to that the usual xenophobic resentments that occur when migrant workers enter a wealthier country, and you have a clearer picture of why Indonesians feel hard done by.</p>
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		<title>By: Rizlan Ghazali</title>
		<link>http://theunspunblog.com/2009/09/11/how-should-malaysia-read-the-jakarta-sweep-for-its-nationals/#comment-54817</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rizlan Ghazali]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 07:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe in Malaysia, &quot;Melayu&quot; is a &#039;Bangsa&#039; not &#039;Suku&#039;. Like Indonesians see &quot;Indonesia&quot; as a &#039;Bangsa&#039; and &quot;Melayu&quot; as a &#039;Suku&#039;. 

We in Malaysia have not as a culture come to terms with the expression &quot;Bangsa Malaysia&quot;. Even the Federal Consitution of Malaysia defines &#039;Melayu&#039; as; Speaker of the Malay Language, Practising Malay Culture and Professing the Islamic Religion.

It is not surprising therefore when Malays extend their definition that Malays are muslims to &#039;Arabs are Muslims&#039; and &#039;Indonesians are Muslims&#039; and are surprised that there can be Christian Arabs or Christian Javanese.

Thus Malaysians tend to treat the term &#039;Melayu&#039; the way Indonesians treat the term &#039;Bangsa Indonesia&#039; vis a vis &#039;Berlainan suku tetapi satu jua&#039;. 

Thus there are Malays of &quot;pure Malay stock&quot; most of whom trace their race and heritage back to Nusantara: Indonesia (making up the largest stock), Thailand, Philipines, Singapore or Cambodia. 

Thus we have &quot;Melayu Jawa&quot;, &quot;Melayu Minang&quot;, &quot;Melayu Aceh&quot;.

Or The Melaka Empire and Colonial Malaya being what it was, we have Malays of Chinese, Indian, Arabic, English or even Turkish stock all Under the term &quot;Malay&quot;. 

In fact we even have Chinese Muslims and Indian Muslims who inter-marry and having children who are accepted and registered as &quot;Malay&quot;.

Thus in Malaysia It is not surprising to find Malays of all kinds of skin tones, build slant of eyes and even while speaking the same Malay language but having different &#039;patois&#039; or &#039;telor&#039;.

Thus we have cultures practised, created, borrowed or assimilated, food that are; attributed to the &#039;States&#039; Sabah to Perlis; attributed stock origin or decent; all being seen as the larger umbrella of &#039;Malay Culture&#039; as understood by Malaysian.

In the last five years Malaysia has welcomed and assimilated in whatever manner a significant number of peoples: Bosnians; Palestinian; Africans; Arabs: Yemeni, Lebanese, Egyptians; Indians; Bangladeshi; Thai; Cambodians; Phillipinas etc, and yes many Indonesians.  

Their children have attended Malaysian school and will one day inter-marry as our forefathers did.

I said my marriage vows according to Islamic precepts but in a very much Hindu Cultural Practise setting, the food served later was Mughal, the Reception was very much western with Royal Malay influence.

My upbringing have been very much western with Malay undertones with enough islamic religion to ease the guilt. 

We have not taught our daughter sufficient Malay do&#039;s and don&#039;ts or Pantang Larang. She speaks more English than Malay. She doesn&#039;t know how to request permission to pass, bending with her right hand by her knee before passing bay her elders. She doesn&#039;t know that she should only speak when she is spoken to by her elders. She doesn&#039;t know that she should never sit pointing her feet at her elder&#039;s. 

My daughter is in her eyes is still Malay albeit paternally: she is Malay Descent(Grandma Gayah&#039;s Mum), Punjabi Descent(Grandma Gayah&#039;s Dad), Minang Descent(Grandpa Ghazali&#039;s Parents), maternally: she is Javanese Descent(Grandma Fatimah&#039;s Parents) and Arab Descent(Grandpa Ahmat&#039;s Parents).   

Culturally we are whatever we practise and whatever Malaysia serves to us and mostly whatever we bother to defend and find if any... we are 1Malaysia.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe in Malaysia, &#8220;Melayu&#8221; is a &#8216;Bangsa&#8217; not &#8216;Suku&#8217;. Like Indonesians see &#8220;Indonesia&#8221; as a &#8216;Bangsa&#8217; and &#8220;Melayu&#8221; as a &#8216;Suku&#8217;. </p>
<p>We in Malaysia have not as a culture come to terms with the expression &#8220;Bangsa Malaysia&#8221;. Even the Federal Consitution of Malaysia defines &#8216;Melayu&#8217; as; Speaker of the Malay Language, Practising Malay Culture and Professing the Islamic Religion.</p>
<p>It is not surprising therefore when Malays extend their definition that Malays are muslims to &#8216;Arabs are Muslims&#8217; and &#8216;Indonesians are Muslims&#8217; and are surprised that there can be Christian Arabs or Christian Javanese.</p>
<p>Thus Malaysians tend to treat the term &#8216;Melayu&#8217; the way Indonesians treat the term &#8216;Bangsa Indonesia&#8217; vis a vis &#8216;Berlainan suku tetapi satu jua&#8217;. </p>
<p>Thus there are Malays of &#8220;pure Malay stock&#8221; most of whom trace their race and heritage back to Nusantara: Indonesia (making up the largest stock), Thailand, Philipines, Singapore or Cambodia. </p>
<p>Thus we have &#8220;Melayu Jawa&#8221;, &#8220;Melayu Minang&#8221;, &#8220;Melayu Aceh&#8221;.</p>
<p>Or The Melaka Empire and Colonial Malaya being what it was, we have Malays of Chinese, Indian, Arabic, English or even Turkish stock all Under the term &#8220;Malay&#8221;. </p>
<p>In fact we even have Chinese Muslims and Indian Muslims who inter-marry and having children who are accepted and registered as &#8220;Malay&#8221;.</p>
<p>Thus in Malaysia It is not surprising to find Malays of all kinds of skin tones, build slant of eyes and even while speaking the same Malay language but having different &#8216;patois&#8217; or &#8216;telor&#8217;.</p>
<p>Thus we have cultures practised, created, borrowed or assimilated, food that are; attributed to the &#8216;States&#8217; Sabah to Perlis; attributed stock origin or decent; all being seen as the larger umbrella of &#8216;Malay Culture&#8217; as understood by Malaysian.</p>
<p>In the last five years Malaysia has welcomed and assimilated in whatever manner a significant number of peoples: Bosnians; Palestinian; Africans; Arabs: Yemeni, Lebanese, Egyptians; Indians; Bangladeshi; Thai; Cambodians; Phillipinas etc, and yes many Indonesians.  </p>
<p>Their children have attended Malaysian school and will one day inter-marry as our forefathers did.</p>
<p>I said my marriage vows according to Islamic precepts but in a very much Hindu Cultural Practise setting, the food served later was Mughal, the Reception was very much western with Royal Malay influence.</p>
<p>My upbringing have been very much western with Malay undertones with enough islamic religion to ease the guilt. </p>
<p>We have not taught our daughter sufficient Malay do&#8217;s and don&#8217;ts or Pantang Larang. She speaks more English than Malay. She doesn&#8217;t know how to request permission to pass, bending with her right hand by her knee before passing bay her elders. She doesn&#8217;t know that she should only speak when she is spoken to by her elders. She doesn&#8217;t know that she should never sit pointing her feet at her elder&#8217;s. </p>
<p>My daughter is in her eyes is still Malay albeit paternally: she is Malay Descent(Grandma Gayah&#8217;s Mum), Punjabi Descent(Grandma Gayah&#8217;s Dad), Minang Descent(Grandpa Ghazali&#8217;s Parents), maternally: she is Javanese Descent(Grandma Fatimah&#8217;s Parents) and Arab Descent(Grandpa Ahmat&#8217;s Parents).   </p>
<p>Culturally we are whatever we practise and whatever Malaysia serves to us and mostly whatever we bother to defend and find if any&#8230; we are 1Malaysia.</p>
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		<title>By: nad</title>
		<link>http://theunspunblog.com/2009/09/11/how-should-malaysia-read-the-jakarta-sweep-for-its-nationals/#comment-54808</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 14:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I find it very disturbing fact when most of Malaysians&#039; great grand parents are from Indonesia then it is okay to say that everything Indonesian - in terms of culture - are also Malaysians.

If you come to Jakarta, the Jakarta people still say food with its origin, say Pempek Palembang, or Gudeg Yogya, or Rendang Padang. Although the palembangnese or yogyanese that brought the food have lived in Jakarta for century, never ever Jakartans will claim that the food is originally from Jakarta.

I think this is quite logic. It&#039;s just about awareness of ethnic culture again. Please dont come back and say &quot;we are serumpun&quot;. It is like asking the culture-aware indonesians to be culture blind, very much of an educational step back.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it very disturbing fact when most of Malaysians&#8217; great grand parents are from Indonesia then it is okay to say that everything Indonesian &#8211; in terms of culture &#8211; are also Malaysians.</p>
<p>If you come to Jakarta, the Jakarta people still say food with its origin, say Pempek Palembang, or Gudeg Yogya, or Rendang Padang. Although the palembangnese or yogyanese that brought the food have lived in Jakarta for century, never ever Jakartans will claim that the food is originally from Jakarta.</p>
<p>I think this is quite logic. It&#8217;s just about awareness of ethnic culture again. Please dont come back and say &#8220;we are serumpun&#8221;. It is like asking the culture-aware indonesians to be culture blind, very much of an educational step back.</p>
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		<title>By: francine</title>
		<link>http://theunspunblog.com/2009/09/11/how-should-malaysia-read-the-jakarta-sweep-for-its-nationals/#comment-54779</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[francine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 17:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Spirit of Freedom,

I think you are very wrong on this. It started way-way back in the 60&#039;s when we were targetted by the Ganyang Malaysia campaign. We don&#039;t forget.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Spirit of Freedom,</p>
<p>I think you are very wrong on this. It started way-way back in the 60&#8242;s when we were targetted by the Ganyang Malaysia campaign. We don&#8217;t forget.</p>
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		<title>By: Michel</title>
		<link>http://theunspunblog.com/2009/09/11/how-should-malaysia-read-the-jakarta-sweep-for-its-nationals/#comment-54774</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 06:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ unspun,

Could you provide a link to this Indonesian Dream blog? indonesiandream.wordpress.com is not registered, and theindonesiandream.wordpress.com has not been updated since.. August last year. Looks like wherever the site is, they have interesting screen grabs at the very least.

Thanks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ unspun,</p>
<p>Could you provide a link to this Indonesian Dream blog? indonesiandream.wordpress.com is not registered, and theindonesiandream.wordpress.com has not been updated since.. August last year. Looks like wherever the site is, they have interesting screen grabs at the very least.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: The Spirit of Freedom</title>
		<link>http://theunspunblog.com/2009/09/11/how-should-malaysia-read-the-jakarta-sweep-for-its-nationals/#comment-54769</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Spirit of Freedom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 02:59:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Francine,   

I have different opinion with you.

It started by Malaysia in Feb. 2005 when some Malaysian naval vessels showed their   barbarian act to our people at Karang Unarang (Ambalat).  Relations were further complicated by other incidents (especially by the latest incident in May 2009 in Ambalat)   and also unclear position of our gov&#039;t (especially SBY).

Please note that there will be no anger here if  our gov&#039;t (SBY) can show their firm/clear position and determination to stop the provocation by Malaysia since the first incident in Feb. 2005.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Francine,   </p>
<p>I have different opinion with you.</p>
<p>It started by Malaysia in Feb. 2005 when some Malaysian naval vessels showed their   barbarian act to our people at Karang Unarang (Ambalat).  Relations were further complicated by other incidents (especially by the latest incident in May 2009 in Ambalat)   and also unclear position of our gov&#8217;t (especially SBY).</p>
<p>Please note that there will be no anger here if  our gov&#8217;t (SBY) can show their firm/clear position and determination to stop the provocation by Malaysia since the first incident in Feb. 2005.</p>
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